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Re: Group rides - input needed

Mike McGehee (PBM)
 

All,

I believe group rides should be cancelled due all the various reasons cited.

I question even riding alone or with your significant other only due to the inherent risk of cycling and sometimes unfortunate things happen. i.e when I broke my arm last year I was riding alone.

I think the last place anyone of us want to be is in a hospital unless it's necessary or our job.

Yes it's a large price to pay. But for the greater good the right decision.

Regards,
PBM

On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 9:40 AM, Sheri Rosenbaum
<Luv2Bike80@...> wrote:
BCLC, Elmhurst, Arlington and meet up cycling groups have suspended their rides. The USA Cycling issued a statement

Should you avoid riding in groups?

Yes. And, as of March 18, USA Cycling has recommended races and other gatherings, such as races and group rides be canceled or postponed and is suspending permits on all events through May 3. 

You can read the full press release in this article https://www.bicycling.com/news/a31469228/cycling-during-coronavirus/

Note that the medical community is still learning about this deadly virus on a daily basis. Recently they found the virus can stay suspended in air much longer than originally thought. My advice is not to ride in groups unless from the same household. Do solo rides and virtual rides instead. Even if you don't show symptoms, you can be a carrier and contagious. 

My two cents. 

From: BBC-Bike@groups.io <BBC-Bike@groups.io> on behalf of Rob Dickson <rdickson33@...>
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 4:19 AM
To: David Bergen <davidb@...>
Cc: BBC-Bike@groups.io <BBC-Bike@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [BBC-Bike] Group rides - input needed
 
Dave,
  • Wheelmen have cancelled all rides until further notice. Ride calendar clear through April
  • Zwift Meetup is a viable option. We had a good group with Tom C this past Sunday
I have no issue riding with a normal size BBC group providing we be cautionary:
  1. No snot rockets
  2. If you need to cough or sneeze, pull out of the paceline.
  3. If you think you may be compromised.....just don't show up
Rob

On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 8:09 AM David Bergen <davidb@...> wrote:

I’m looking to start a discussion on group rides.

Cancel completely?

How do you maintain proper social distancing when you are breathing the exhaust of the rider in front of you?  

What is a safe distance?

Groups of 4 riders at a time?

What are the pro’s doing? Other clubs?

Organize time trials with a 1 minute spacing?

Cross winds vs. head or tail winds?

Input needed

 

 
Re: Group rides - input needed

Mike McGehee (PBM)
 

Hilarious video


On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 8:48 AM, Rob Dickson
<rdickson33@...> wrote:

On Tue, Mar 24, 2020, 8:09 AM David Bergen <davidb@...> wrote:

I’m looking to start a discussion on group rides.

Cancel completely?

How do you maintain proper social distancing when you are breathing the exhaust of the rider in front of you?  

What is a safe distance?

Groups of 4 riders at a time?

What are the pro’s doing? Other clubs?

Organize time trials with a 1 minute spacing?

Cross winds vs. head or tail winds?

Input needed

 

 
Re: Hosting Zwift rides

Rob Dickson
 

I set up the Discord channel for BBC use. All are welcome to join. I will see if I can send a permanent invite link. If not, shoot me an email prior to a planned ride and I can create an invite link for you.

Rob

On Tue, Mar 24, 2020, 10:48 AM Jon Ogden via Groups.Io <jogden=mac.com@groups.io> wrote:
I would highly recommend setting up a chat server using Discord.  We did this for Sunday’s ride and it was great to be able to just talk to each other while riding.  It’s one more piece of technology to try and implement but once you do it, it becomes easy.  You create an account, log in and then the ride leader would create a server (really a channel) for everyone to connect to.  Connect to that and then enable voice and you can all chit chat while riding.

Works well.

Jon

On Mar 24, 2020, at 10:41 AM, Sheri Rosenbaum <Luv2Bike80@...> wrote:

For the women of BBC, I've been hosting weekly women's rides virtually via Zwift if you'd like to join. We just need to be following each other in Zwift for me to invite you (my screen name is Sheri Rosie). It's my way to keep the women's group motivated and distracted for an hour or so. The course changes each week for variety.
  • Tuesday nights @ 6-710pm  - Banded together but you can go as hard or as easy as you wish

  • Friday nights @ 5:30-630pm - This is a Happy Hour and Trivia ride. Banded together like Tuesday night so go hard or easy. During the ride I ask Trivia questions and you respond via the Companion app messenger. We don't ask what's in your water bottle. It was a blast last Friday night and working on more trivia questions.

For those who are uneasy about hosting a Meetup in Zwift, it is easy. Below are some tips I gave my women and this article is helpful.
  1. Download the Zwift Companion App on your smartphone
  2. Accept the Meet up ride in advance AND before you log into Zwift to start your ride
  3. The day of the Zwift Meet up, start riding about 15 min before the scheduled start. You can do this in any world. Warm up your legs.
  4. 3-5 min before the scheduled Meetup, you will see a pop up to join the Meetup, just like it does when joining an event.
  5. Do NOT be late. Meet ups do not allow you to join after it starts. Only events let you join late
  6. My meet up rides have everyone banded together. This means you can pedal really hard or you can just do a very easy recovery ride. You just can't stop pedaling or you will get dropped.
  7. At the start of the ride your avatar will be on the side of the road on a stationary trainer until the Meet up begins
  8. During the meet up, everyone who is in our group will be highlighted in green along the right hand of your screen.
  9. To message other riders or the group during the Meetup, use your Companion App. You will see a Messages icon along the bottom of the app phone screen

If you have any questions happy to help.
Sheri
Re: Group rides - input needed

John Guido
 

Ron, I’m so sorry to hear about your brother. Stay strong with your mother. 

I’m will ride inside away from everyone ( I did reactivate Zwift to ride with the bunch Sunday- it was fun) and when we can go outside when it’s warmer-solo, until we are advised otherwise and know more. 

Be safe everyone. 

Cheers.  

John


On Mar 24, 2020, at 10:32 AM, Mariann Leahy <drlehwc@...> wrote:

Agree with others and unfortunately people are extremely overwhelmed and not thinking clearly. My good friend was accosted while talking a walk in her neighborhood this weekend for not staying home
So please be vigilant with whatever decision you make

Dr Mariann Leahy 

On Mar 24, 2020, at 9:57 AM, Tom Cramer <tcramer@...> wrote:



I’m very sorry for the loss of your brother Ron, I went thru that years ago it’s not something you get over! My condolences to you and your family.

 

I agree with Anna, Jason, Davis and Tina.

 

I have been in my home for a week now trying to do my part, but like you all am dying to go on a nice outdoor ride thru the hills.

I have watched the YouTube link that Ron posted along with another one on the subject which both brought up the good points of not only the sweat or the snot rockets, but if there is a crash that involves us going to the hospital would not be a good thing.

The comment about how the bicyclist haters also brings up a good point, we don’t want to fuel the hate with seeing a big pack of us out there less than 6 feet apart.

 

I will most likely go on some careful solo rides and will try and setup some more Zwift Group rides until the Stay at Home order is lifted.

 

Tom Cramer

From: BBC-Bike@groups.io [mailto:BBC-Bike@groups.io] On Behalf Of David Holtermann
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 9:45 AM
To: Carol Curtis <SpinAholic@...>
Cc: Rob Dickson <rdickson33@...>; BBC-Bike@groups.io
Subject: Re: [BBC-Bike] Group rides - input needed [EXTERNAL EMAIL - CAUTION]

 

I don't have anything to share from a medical perspective, but strictly on the basis of social perceptions I urge that any group rides be very small and very low key. We all know that bicyclists are picked on (unfairly) in the best of times - for slowing traffic, for taking up space, for flouting the law. If bicyclists are seen congregating and riding in groups in apparent contradiction of stay-at-home orders, etc, we're only going to reinforce the worst perceptions of us. My two cents.

 

David

 

On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 9:24 AM Carol Curtis via Groups.Io <SpinAholic=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:

I agree! Thanks Rob!



On Mar 24, 2020, at 9:19 AM, Rob Dickson <rdickson33@...> wrote:



Dave,

  • Wheelmen have cancelled all rides until further notice. Ride calendar clear through April
  • Zwift Meetup is a viable option. We had a good group with Tom C this past Sunday

I have no issue riding with a normal size BBC group providing we be cautionary:

  1. No snot rockets
  2. If you need to cough or sneeze, pull out of the paceline.
  3. If you think you may be compromised.....just don't show up

Rob

 

On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 8:09 AM David Bergen <davidb@...> wrote:

I’m looking to start a discussion on group rides.

Cancel completely?

How do you maintain proper social distancing when you are breathing the exhaust of the rider in front of you?  

What is a safe distance?

Groups of 4 riders at a time?

What are the pro’s doing? Other clubs?

Organize time trials with a 1 minute spacing?

Cross winds vs. head or tail winds?

Input needed

 

 

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Re: Hosting Zwift rides

Jon Ogden
 

I would highly recommend setting up a chat server using Discord.  We did this for Sunday’s ride and it was great to be able to just talk to each other while riding.  It’s one more piece of technology to try and implement but once you do it, it becomes easy.  You create an account, log in and then the ride leader would create a server (really a channel) for everyone to connect to.  Connect to that and then enable voice and you can all chit chat while riding.

Works well.

Jon

On Mar 24, 2020, at 10:41 AM, Sheri Rosenbaum <Luv2Bike80@...> wrote:

For the women of BBC, I've been hosting weekly women's rides virtually via Zwift if you'd like to join. We just need to be following each other in Zwift for me to invite you (my screen name is Sheri Rosie). It's my way to keep the women's group motivated and distracted for an hour or so. The course changes each week for variety.
  • Tuesday nights @ 6-710pm  - Banded together but you can go as hard or as easy as you wish

  • Friday nights @ 5:30-630pm - This is a Happy Hour and Trivia ride. Banded together like Tuesday night so go hard or easy. During the ride I ask Trivia questions and you respond via the Companion app messenger. We don't ask what's in your water bottle. It was a blast last Friday night and working on more trivia questions.

For those who are uneasy about hosting a Meetup in Zwift, it is easy. Below are some tips I gave my women and this article is helpful.
  1. Download the Zwift Companion App on your smartphone
  2. Accept the Meet up ride in advance AND before you log into Zwift to start your ride
  3. The day of the Zwift Meet up, start riding about 15 min before the scheduled start. You can do this in any world. Warm up your legs.
  4. 3-5 min before the scheduled Meetup, you will see a pop up to join the Meetup, just like it does when joining an event.
  5. Do NOT be late. Meet ups do not allow you to join after it starts. Only events let you join late
  6. My meet up rides have everyone banded together. This means you can pedal really hard or you can just do a very easy recovery ride. You just can't stop pedaling or you will get dropped.
  7. At the start of the ride your avatar will be on the side of the road on a stationary trainer until the Meet up begins
  8. During the meet up, everyone who is in our group will be highlighted in green along the right hand of your screen.
  9. To message other riders or the group during the Meetup, use your Companion App. You will see a Messages icon along the bottom of the app phone screen

If you have any questions happy to help.
Sheri
Re: Group rides - input needed

David Saporta
 

A lot of good thoughts.  I think "pods" of 2 are best.  Keeping the "distance" and going to the back to spit, etc. gets cumbersome even with 4 people.  I've tried it.  I still think having BBC organize times to ride gets everyone out and exercising which is half the battle sometimes.  If an odd number shows up then one pod can have 3.  Even if you skip all "group" rides, I still think it's safer to ride with at least one other person rather than solo in case of a fall, flat tire, etc.  Of course, if you have any ill symptoms or anyone you have been around does, don't show up.



On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 9:24 AM Carol Curtis via Groups.Io <SpinAholic=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
I agree! Thanks Rob!


On Mar 24, 2020, at 9:19 AM, Rob Dickson <rdickson33@...> wrote:


Dave,
  • Wheelmen have cancelled all rides until further notice. Ride calendar clear through April
  • Zwift Meetup is a viable option. We had a good group with Tom C this past Sunday
I have no issue riding with a normal size BBC group providing we be cautionary:
  1. No snot rockets
  2. If you need to cough or sneeze, pull out of the paceline.
  3. If you think you may be compromised.....just don't show up
Rob

On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 8:09 AM David Bergen <davidb@...> wrote:

I’m looking to start a discussion on group rides.

Cancel completely?

How do you maintain proper social distancing when you are breathing the exhaust of the rider in front of you?  

What is a safe distance?

Groups of 4 riders at a time?

What are the pro’s doing? Other clubs?

Organize time trials with a 1 minute spacing?

Cross winds vs. head or tail winds?

Input needed

 

 
Hosting Zwift rides

Sheri Rosenbaum
 

For the women of BBC, I've been hosting weekly women's rides virtually via Zwift if you'd like to join. We just need to be following each other in Zwift for me to invite you (my screen name is Sheri Rosie). It's my way to keep the women's group motivated and distracted for an hour or so. The course changes each week for variety.
  • Tuesday nights @ 6-710pm  - Banded together but you can go as hard or as easy as you wish

  • Friday nights @ 5:30-630pm - This is a Happy Hour and Trivia ride. Banded together like Tuesday night so go hard or easy. During the ride I ask Trivia questions and you respond via the Companion app messenger. We don't ask what's in your water bottle. It was a blast last Friday night and working on more trivia questions.

For those who are uneasy about hosting a Meetup in Zwift, it is easy. Below are some tips I gave my women and this article is helpful.
  1. Download the Zwift Companion App on your smartphone
  2. Accept the Meet up ride in advance AND before you log into Zwift to start your ride
  3. The day of the Zwift Meet up, start riding about 15 min before the scheduled start. You can do this in any world. Warm up your legs.
  4. 3-5 min before the scheduled Meetup, you will see a pop up to join the Meetup, just like it does when joining an event.
  5. Do NOT be late. Meet ups do not allow you to join after it starts. Only events let you join late
  6. My meet up rides have everyone banded together. This means you can pedal really hard or you can just do a very easy recovery ride. You just can't stop pedaling or you will get dropped.
  7. At the start of the ride your avatar will be on the side of the road on a stationary trainer until the Meet up begins
  8. During the meet up, everyone who is in our group will be highlighted in green along the right hand of your screen.
  9. To message other riders or the group during the Meetup, use your Companion App. You will see a Messages icon along the bottom of the app phone screen

If you have any questions happy to help.
Sheri
Re: Group rides - input needed

Mariann Leahy
 

Agree with others and unfortunately people are extremely overwhelmed and not thinking clearly. My good friend was accosted while talking a walk in her neighborhood this weekend for not staying home
So please be vigilant with whatever decision you make

Dr Mariann Leahy 

On Mar 24, 2020, at 9:57 AM, Tom Cramer <tcramer@...> wrote:



I’m very sorry for the loss of your brother Ron, I went thru that years ago it’s not something you get over! My condolences to you and your family.

 

I agree with Anna, Jason, Davis and Tina.

 

I have been in my home for a week now trying to do my part, but like you all am dying to go on a nice outdoor ride thru the hills.

I have watched the YouTube link that Ron posted along with another one on the subject which both brought up the good points of not only the sweat or the snot rockets, but if there is a crash that involves us going to the hospital would not be a good thing.

The comment about how the bicyclist haters also brings up a good point, we don’t want to fuel the hate with seeing a big pack of us out there less than 6 feet apart.

 

I will most likely go on some careful solo rides and will try and setup some more Zwift Group rides until the Stay at Home order is lifted.

 

Tom Cramer

From: BBC-Bike@groups.io [mailto:BBC-Bike@groups.io] On Behalf Of David Holtermann
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 9:45 AM
To: Carol Curtis <SpinAholic@...>
Cc: Rob Dickson <rdickson33@...>; BBC-Bike@groups.io
Subject: Re: [BBC-Bike] Group rides - input needed [EXTERNAL EMAIL - CAUTION]

 

I don't have anything to share from a medical perspective, but strictly on the basis of social perceptions I urge that any group rides be very small and very low key. We all know that bicyclists are picked on (unfairly) in the best of times - for slowing traffic, for taking up space, for flouting the law. If bicyclists are seen congregating and riding in groups in apparent contradiction of stay-at-home orders, etc, we're only going to reinforce the worst perceptions of us. My two cents.

 

David

 

On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 9:24 AM Carol Curtis via Groups.Io <SpinAholic=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:

I agree! Thanks Rob!



On Mar 24, 2020, at 9:19 AM, Rob Dickson <rdickson33@...> wrote:



Dave,

  • Wheelmen have cancelled all rides until further notice. Ride calendar clear through April
  • Zwift Meetup is a viable option. We had a good group with Tom C this past Sunday

I have no issue riding with a normal size BBC group providing we be cautionary:

  1. No snot rockets
  2. If you need to cough or sneeze, pull out of the paceline.
  3. If you think you may be compromised.....just don't show up

Rob

 

On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 8:09 AM David Bergen <davidb@...> wrote:

I’m looking to start a discussion on group rides.

Cancel completely?

How do you maintain proper social distancing when you are breathing the exhaust of the rider in front of you?  

What is a safe distance?

Groups of 4 riders at a time?

What are the pro’s doing? Other clubs?

Organize time trials with a 1 minute spacing?

Cross winds vs. head or tail winds?

Input needed

 

 

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no riding in Europe

Anna Swiet
 

I just looked at these articles about what has happened to running, riding  and training in Europe.
Important note (similar to Tina's comment) is to not get hurt which requires medical care if you crash/fall

Anna 


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Re: Group rides - input needed

Tom Cramer
 

I’m very sorry for the loss of your brother Ron, I went thru that years ago it’s not something you get over! My condolences to you and your family.

 

I agree with Anna, Jason, Davis and Tina.

 

I have been in my home for a week now trying to do my part, but like you all am dying to go on a nice outdoor ride thru the hills.

I have watched the YouTube link that Ron posted along with another one on the subject which both brought up the good points of not only the sweat or the snot rockets, but if there is a crash that involves us going to the hospital would not be a good thing.

The comment about how the bicyclist haters also brings up a good point, we don’t want to fuel the hate with seeing a big pack of us out there less than 6 feet apart.

 

I will most likely go on some careful solo rides and will try and setup some more Zwift Group rides until the Stay at Home order is lifted.

 

Tom Cramer

From: BBC-Bike@groups.io [mailto:BBC-Bike@groups.io] On Behalf Of David Holtermann
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 9:45 AM
To: Carol Curtis <SpinAholic@...>
Cc: Rob Dickson <rdickson33@...>; BBC-Bike@groups.io
Subject: Re: [BBC-Bike] Group rides - input needed [EXTERNAL EMAIL - CAUTION]

 

I don't have anything to share from a medical perspective, but strictly on the basis of social perceptions I urge that any group rides be very small and very low key. We all know that bicyclists are picked on (unfairly) in the best of times - for slowing traffic, for taking up space, for flouting the law. If bicyclists are seen congregating and riding in groups in apparent contradiction of stay-at-home orders, etc, we're only going to reinforce the worst perceptions of us. My two cents.

 

David

 

On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 9:24 AM Carol Curtis via Groups.Io <SpinAholic=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:

I agree! Thanks Rob!



On Mar 24, 2020, at 9:19 AM, Rob Dickson <rdickson33@...> wrote:



Dave,

  • Wheelmen have cancelled all rides until further notice. Ride calendar clear through April
  • Zwift Meetup is a viable option. We had a good group with Tom C this past Sunday

I have no issue riding with a normal size BBC group providing we be cautionary:

  1. No snot rockets
  2. If you need to cough or sneeze, pull out of the paceline.
  3. If you think you may be compromised.....just don't show up

Rob

 

On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 8:09 AM David Bergen <davidb@...> wrote:

I’m looking to start a discussion on group rides.

Cancel completely?

How do you maintain proper social distancing when you are breathing the exhaust of the rider in front of you?  

What is a safe distance?

Groups of 4 riders at a time?

What are the pro’s doing? Other clubs?

Organize time trials with a 1 minute spacing?

Cross winds vs. head or tail winds?

Input needed

 

 

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Re: Group rides - input needed

Lena Chon
 

Dave,

Is it possible to reformat how we ride?

   So maybe we stay in pods of 2-4 people.  Let’s say 8 of us shows up to a ride, that’s 2-3 pods.  All of us are familiar with club routes, and if someone does not know the route, they better make sure someone in the pod knows the way. As long as we are within sight. It’s good.  And when we pull up at light or stop sign DON’T congregate. 

  In regards to spitting and blowing your nose... rather than pulling out to far left, the person needs to go to the end, then do there business. Just like rotating the pace line.  You CAN’T  come in mid pace line because any moisture droplets that lands on your body is still traveling and it could get blown on to the person that you just cut in front off.

Any individual who comes out to ride, they have to be well and no one in their household is sick with cold, and or Corona virus.

Trigger words...DISTANCE, if a fellow rider shouts this out, please be respectful and just check yourself. Don’t take it personal.

These options may not keep the group as tight like before.  The pace  may be a little less, may not. But we get to ride and see each other.

Missing you all,
Lena





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On Mar 24, 2020, at 8:09 AM, David Bergen <DavidB@...> wrote:



I’m looking to start a discussion on group rides.

Cancel completely?

How do you maintain proper social distancing when you are breathing the exhaust of the rider in front of you?  

What is a safe distance?

Groups of 4 riders at a time?

What are the pro’s doing? Other clubs?

Organize time trials with a 1 minute spacing?

Cross winds vs. head or tail winds?

Input needed

 

 
Re: Group rides - input needed

Anna Swiet
 

Hi Everyone,
I think it's best to be cautious right now and obviously everyone should make their own choices
We can wait a few weeks to see each other's smiling faces.
Personally, I will ride solo as circumstance allows (which is not often) or with no more than 1 other rider kept at a distance.
The riding parties can commence when it's safe.

Stay well my friends

Anna 


On Tuesday, March 24, 2020, 08:09:32 AM CDT, David Bergen <davidb@...> wrote:


I’m looking to start a discussion on group rides.

Cancel completely?

How do you maintain proper social distancing when you are breathing the exhaust of the rider in front of you?  

What is a safe distance?

Groups of 4 riders at a time?

What are the pro’s doing? Other clubs?

Organize time trials with a 1 minute spacing?

Cross winds vs. head or tail winds?

Input needed

 

 
Re: Group rides - input needed

Jason Krueger
 

I’m with the isolators on this one.  My industry has been deemed “essential" and so I'll be out in the world for a couple more weeks at least.  I wouldn't want to risk exposing anyone I know to this, so I'll be in the basement on the trainer.  

Zwift group rides are a nice distraction, I vote we keep a few of those on the schedule just so we all stay in touch with each other, and have something to look forward to.

Hopefully not more than a few more weeks of this, and we can get back outside.  

J



On Mar 24, 2020, at 09:19, Rob Dickson <rdickson33@...> wrote:


Dave,
  • Wheelmen have cancelled all rides until further notice. Ride calendar clear through April
  • Zwift Meetup is a viable option. We had a good group with Tom C this past Sunday
I have no issue riding with a normal size BBC group providing we be cautionary:
  1. No snot rockets
  2. If you need to cough or sneeze, pull out of the paceline.
  3. If you think you may be compromised.....just don't show up
Rob

On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 8:09 AM David Bergen <davidb@...> wrote:

I’m looking to start a discussion on group rides.

Cancel completely?

How do you maintain proper social distancing when you are breathing the exhaust of the rider in front of you?  

What is a safe distance?

Groups of 4 riders at a time?

What are the pro’s doing? Other clubs?

Organize time trials with a 1 minute spacing?

Cross winds vs. head or tail winds?

Input needed

 

 
Re: Group rides - input needed

David Holtermann
 

I don't have anything to share from a medical perspective, but strictly on the basis of social perceptions I urge that any group rides be very small and very low key. We all know that bicyclists are picked on (unfairly) in the best of times - for slowing traffic, for taking up space, for flouting the law. If bicyclists are seen congregating and riding in groups in apparent contradiction of stay-at-home orders, etc, we're only going to reinforce the worst perceptions of us. My two cents.

David


On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 9:24 AM Carol Curtis via Groups.Io <SpinAholic=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
I agree! Thanks Rob!


On Mar 24, 2020, at 9:19 AM, Rob Dickson <rdickson33@...> wrote:


Dave,
  • Wheelmen have cancelled all rides until further notice. Ride calendar clear through April
  • Zwift Meetup is a viable option. We had a good group with Tom C this past Sunday
I have no issue riding with a normal size BBC group providing we be cautionary:
  1. No snot rockets
  2. If you need to cough or sneeze, pull out of the paceline.
  3. If you think you may be compromised.....just don't show up
Rob

On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 8:09 AM David Bergen <davidb@...> wrote:

I’m looking to start a discussion on group rides.

Cancel completely?

How do you maintain proper social distancing when you are breathing the exhaust of the rider in front of you?  

What is a safe distance?

Groups of 4 riders at a time?

What are the pro’s doing? Other clubs?

Organize time trials with a 1 minute spacing?

Cross winds vs. head or tail winds?

Input needed

 

 
Re: Group rides - input needed

tinasmith7934
 

Hi BBC,
Thanks for the email Dave. I started thinking about this yesterday.

I have personally decided to not ride with a group until May 1st, then I will re-evaluate.  If something drastically changes, I will re-evaluate sooner. 

I don't want to be in a large group especially since Illinois has a shelter in place order. I don't want to be on the receiving end of an angry motorist who thinks we should be sheltering in place vs riding our bikes in a group.  And, heaven forbid, if a crash occurs, I don't want to over burden our 1st responders and health care workers at this time-they have enough on their plates. 

This is just my own strategy.  No judgement regarding others' choices. Until I change my mind I will be Zwifting. I'm sick of my basement but I'm trying to do my part. 

I miss everyone and hope we can salvage some of our outdoor season. Please stay safe and healthy.

Tina
Re: Group rides - input needed

Sheri Rosenbaum
 

BCLC, Elmhurst, Arlington and meet up cycling groups have suspended their rides. The USA Cycling issued a statement

Should you avoid riding in groups?

Yes. And, as of March 18, USA Cycling has recommended races and other gatherings, such as races and group rides be canceled or postponed and is suspending permits on all events through May 3. 

You can read the full press release in this article https://www.bicycling.com/news/a31469228/cycling-during-coronavirus/

Note that the medical community is still learning about this deadly virus on a daily basis. Recently they found the virus can stay suspended in air much longer than originally thought. My advice is not to ride in groups unless from the same household. Do solo rides and virtual rides instead. Even if you don't show symptoms, you can be a carrier and contagious. 

My two cents. 

From: BBC-Bike@groups.io <BBC-Bike@groups.io> on behalf of Rob Dickson <rdickson33@...>
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 4:19 AM
To: David Bergen <davidb@...>
Cc: BBC-Bike@groups.io <BBC-Bike@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [BBC-Bike] Group rides - input needed
 
Dave,
  • Wheelmen have cancelled all rides until further notice. Ride calendar clear through April
  • Zwift Meetup is a viable option. We had a good group with Tom C this past Sunday
I have no issue riding with a normal size BBC group providing we be cautionary:
  1. No snot rockets
  2. If you need to cough or sneeze, pull out of the paceline.
  3. If you think you may be compromised.....just don't show up
Rob

On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 8:09 AM David Bergen <davidb@...> wrote:

I’m looking to start a discussion on group rides.

Cancel completely?

How do you maintain proper social distancing when you are breathing the exhaust of the rider in front of you?  

What is a safe distance?

Groups of 4 riders at a time?

What are the pro’s doing? Other clubs?

Organize time trials with a 1 minute spacing?

Cross winds vs. head or tail winds?

Input needed

 

 
Re: Group rides - input needed

Carol Curtis
 

I agree! Thanks Rob!


On Mar 24, 2020, at 9:19 AM, Rob Dickson <rdickson33@...> wrote:


Dave,
  • Wheelmen have cancelled all rides until further notice. Ride calendar clear through April
  • Zwift Meetup is a viable option. We had a good group with Tom C this past Sunday
I have no issue riding with a normal size BBC group providing we be cautionary:
  1. No snot rockets
  2. If you need to cough or sneeze, pull out of the paceline.
  3. If you think you may be compromised.....just don't show up
Rob

On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 8:09 AM David Bergen <davidb@...> wrote:

I’m looking to start a discussion on group rides.

Cancel completely?

How do you maintain proper social distancing when you are breathing the exhaust of the rider in front of you?  

What is a safe distance?

Groups of 4 riders at a time?

What are the pro’s doing? Other clubs?

Organize time trials with a 1 minute spacing?

Cross winds vs. head or tail winds?

Input needed

 

 
Re: Group rides - input needed

Rob Dickson
 

Dave,
  • Wheelmen have cancelled all rides until further notice. Ride calendar clear through April
  • Zwift Meetup is a viable option. We had a good group with Tom C this past Sunday
I have no issue riding with a normal size BBC group providing we be cautionary:
  1. No snot rockets
  2. If you need to cough or sneeze, pull out of the paceline.
  3. If you think you may be compromised.....just don't show up
Rob


On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 8:09 AM David Bergen <davidb@...> wrote:

I’m looking to start a discussion on group rides.

Cancel completely?

How do you maintain proper social distancing when you are breathing the exhaust of the rider in front of you?  

What is a safe distance?

Groups of 4 riders at a time?

What are the pro’s doing? Other clubs?

Organize time trials with a 1 minute spacing?

Cross winds vs. head or tail winds?

Input needed

 

 
Re: Group rides - input needed

Rob Dickson
 


On Tue, Mar 24, 2020, 8:09 AM David Bergen <davidb@...> wrote:

I’m looking to start a discussion on group rides.

Cancel completely?

How do you maintain proper social distancing when you are breathing the exhaust of the rider in front of you?  

What is a safe distance?

Groups of 4 riders at a time?

What are the pro’s doing? Other clubs?

Organize time trials with a 1 minute spacing?

Cross winds vs. head or tail winds?

Input needed

 

 
Re: Group rides - input needed

Carol Curtis
 

Thanks for that valuable information AND so sorry for your loss. 
Carol


On Mar 24, 2020, at 8:28 AM, Ron Vargo <ronv42@...> wrote:



Dave,

 

You ask good questions and I have been following many other forums on this same topic and they have the same questions.  The 1 minute spacing seems to be the most talked about as long as the group can keep a consistent pace.   The folks on GCN tried to address this on their YouTube channel:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hT54W7UGs2E

 

I am still sequestered in Michigan since my brothers passing, taking care of Mom, so best to everyone coming up with a plan.  I plan on being back on the bike and zwift in April.

 

-Ron

 

From: David Bergen
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 8:09 AM
To: BBC-Bike@groups.io
Subject: [BBC-Bike] Group rides - input needed

 

I’m looking to start a discussion on group rides.

Cancel completely?

How do you maintain proper social distancing when you are breathing the exhaust of the rider in front of you?  

What is a safe distance?

Groups of 4 riders at a time?

What are the pro’s doing? Other clubs?

Organize time trials with a 1 minute spacing?

Cross winds vs. head or tail winds?

Input needed

 

 

 
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