Re: Group rides - input needed
Mike McGehee (PBM)
All,
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I believe group rides should be cancelled due all the various reasons cited. I question even riding alone or with your significant other only due to the inherent risk of cycling and sometimes unfortunate things happen. i.e when I broke my arm last year I was riding alone. I think the last place anyone of us want to be is in a hospital unless it's necessary or our job. Yes it's a large price to pay. But for the greater good the right decision. Regards, PBM
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Re: Group rides - input needed
Mike McGehee (PBM)
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Re: Hosting Zwift rides
Rob Dickson
I set up the Discord channel for BBC use. All are welcome to join. I will see if I can send a permanent invite link. If not, shoot me an email prior to a planned ride and I can create an invite link for you. Rob
On Tue, Mar 24, 2020, 10:48 AM Jon Ogden via Groups.Io <jogden=mac.com@groups.io> wrote:
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Re: Group rides - input needed
John Guido
Ron, I’m so sorry to hear about your brother. Stay strong with your mother.
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I’m will ride inside away from everyone ( I did reactivate Zwift to ride with the bunch Sunday- it was fun) and when we can go outside when it’s warmer-solo, until we are advised otherwise and know more. Be safe everyone. Cheers. John
On Mar 24, 2020, at 10:32 AM, Mariann Leahy <drlehwc@...> wrote:
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Re: Hosting Zwift rides
Jon Ogden
I would highly recommend setting up a chat server using Discord. We did this for Sunday’s ride and it was great to be able to just talk to each other while riding. It’s one more piece of technology to try and implement but once you do it, it becomes easy. You create an account, log in and then the ride leader would create a server (really a channel) for everyone to connect to. Connect to that and then enable voice and you can all chit chat while riding.
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Works well. Jon
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Re: Group rides - input needed
David Saporta
A lot of good thoughts. I think "pods" of 2 are best. Keeping the "distance" and going to the back to spit, etc. gets cumbersome even with 4 people. I've tried it. I still think having BBC organize times to ride gets everyone out and exercising which is half the battle sometimes. If an odd number shows up then one pod can have 3. Even if you skip all "group" rides, I still think it's safer to ride with at least one other person rather than solo in case of a fall, flat tire, etc. Of course, if you have any ill symptoms or anyone you have been around does, don't show up.
On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 9:24 AM Carol Curtis via Groups.Io <SpinAholic=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
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Hosting Zwift rides
Sheri Rosenbaum
For the women of BBC, I've been hosting weekly women's rides virtually via Zwift if you'd like to join. We just need to be following each other in Zwift for me to invite you (my screen name is Sheri Rosie). It's my way to keep the women's group motivated and
distracted for an hour or so. The course changes each week for variety.
For those who are uneasy about
hosting a Meetup in Zwift, it is easy. Below are some tips I gave my women and this article is helpful.
If you have any questions happy to help.
Sheri
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Re: Group rides - input needed
Mariann Leahy
Agree with others and unfortunately people are extremely overwhelmed and not thinking clearly. My good friend was accosted while talking a walk in her neighborhood this weekend for not staying home
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So please be vigilant with whatever decision you make Dr Mariann Leahy
On Mar 24, 2020, at 9:57 AM, Tom Cramer <tcramer@...> wrote:
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no riding in Europe
Anna Swiet
I just looked at these articles about what has happened to running, riding and training in Europe. Important note (similar to Tina's comment) is to not get hurt which requires medical care if you crash/fall Anna ----- Forwarded Message -----
From: Dan Empfield <slowman@...> To: "annaswiet@..." <annaswiet@...> Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020, 06:25:49 PM CDT Subject: Here's What You Missed on Slowtwitch: 03/23/20
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Re: Group rides - input needed
Tom Cramer
I’m very sorry for the loss of your brother Ron, I went thru that years ago it’s not something you get over! My condolences to you and your family.
I agree with Anna, Jason, Davis and Tina.
I have been in my home for a week now trying to do my part, but like you all am dying to go on a nice outdoor ride thru the hills. I have watched the YouTube link that Ron posted along with another one on the subject which both brought up the good points of not only the sweat or the snot rockets, but if there is a crash that involves us going to the hospital would not be a good thing. The comment about how the bicyclist haters also brings up a good point, we don’t want to fuel the hate with seeing a big pack of us out there less than 6 feet apart.
I will most likely go on some careful solo rides and will try and setup some more Zwift Group rides until the Stay at Home order is lifted.
Tom Cramer
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I don't have anything to share from a medical perspective, but strictly on the basis of social perceptions I urge that any group rides be very small and very low key. We all know that bicyclists are picked on (unfairly) in the best of times - for slowing traffic, for taking up space, for flouting the law. If bicyclists are seen congregating and riding in groups in apparent contradiction of stay-at-home orders, etc, we're only going to reinforce the worst perceptions of us. My two cents.
David
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Re: Group rides - input needed
Lena Chon
Dave,
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Is it possible to reformat how we ride? So maybe we stay in pods of 2-4 people. Let’s say 8 of us shows up to a ride, that’s 2-3 pods. All of us are familiar with club routes, and if someone does not know the route, they better make sure someone in the pod knows the way. As long as we are within sight. It’s good. And when we pull up at light or stop sign DON’T congregate. In regards to spitting and blowing your nose... rather than pulling out to far left, the person needs to go to the end, then do there business. Just like rotating the pace line. You CAN’T come in mid pace line because any moisture droplets that lands on your body is still traveling and it could get blown on to the person that you just cut in front off. Any individual who comes out to ride, they have to be well and no one in their household is sick with cold, and or Corona virus. Trigger words...DISTANCE, if a fellow rider shouts this out, please be respectful and just check yourself. Don’t take it personal. These options may not keep the group as tight like before. The pace may be a little less, may not. But we get to ride and see each other. Missing you all, Lena from my iPhone
On Mar 24, 2020, at 8:09 AM, David Bergen <DavidB@...> wrote:
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Re: Group rides - input needed
Anna Swiet
Hi Everyone, I think it's best to be cautious right now and obviously everyone should make their own choices We can wait a few weeks to see each other's smiling faces. Personally, I will ride solo as circumstance allows (which is not often) or with no more than 1 other rider kept at a distance. The riding parties can commence when it's safe. Stay well my friends Anna
On Tuesday, March 24, 2020, 08:09:32 AM CDT, David Bergen <davidb@...> wrote:
I’m looking to start a discussion on group rides. Cancel completely? How do you maintain proper social distancing when you are breathing the exhaust of the rider in front of you? What is a safe distance? Groups of 4 riders at a time? What are the pro’s doing? Other clubs? Organize time trials with a 1 minute spacing? Cross winds vs. head or tail winds? Input needed
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Re: Group rides - input needed
Jason Krueger
I’m with the isolators on this one. My industry has been deemed “essential" and so I'll be out in the world for a couple more weeks at least. I wouldn't want to risk exposing anyone I know to this, so I'll be in the basement on the trainer.
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Zwift group rides are a nice distraction, I vote we keep a few of those on the schedule just so we all stay in touch with each other, and have something to look forward to. Hopefully not more than a few more weeks of this, and we can get back outside. J
On Mar 24, 2020, at 09:19, Rob Dickson <rdickson33@...> wrote:
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Re: Group rides - input needed
David Holtermann
I don't have anything to share from a medical perspective, but strictly on the basis of social perceptions I urge that any group rides be very small and very low key. We all know that bicyclists are picked on (unfairly) in the best of times - for slowing traffic, for taking up space, for flouting the law. If bicyclists are seen congregating and riding in groups in apparent contradiction of stay-at-home orders, etc, we're only going to reinforce the worst perceptions of us. My two cents. David
On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 9:24 AM Carol Curtis via Groups.Io <SpinAholic=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
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Re: Group rides - input needed
tinasmith7934
Hi BBC,
Thanks for the email Dave. I started thinking about this yesterday. I have personally decided to not ride with a group until May 1st, then I will re-evaluate. If something drastically changes, I will re-evaluate sooner. I don't want to be in a large group especially since Illinois has a shelter in place order. I don't want to be on the receiving end of an angry motorist who thinks we should be sheltering in place vs riding our bikes in a group. And, heaven forbid, if a crash occurs, I don't want to over burden our 1st responders and health care workers at this time-they have enough on their plates. This is just my own strategy. No judgement regarding others' choices. Until I change my mind I will be Zwifting. I'm sick of my basement but I'm trying to do my part. I miss everyone and hope we can salvage some of our outdoor season. Please stay safe and healthy.
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Re: Group rides - input needed
Sheri Rosenbaum
BCLC, Elmhurst, Arlington and meet up cycling groups have suspended their rides. The USA Cycling issued a statement
Should you avoid riding in groups?Yes. And, as of March 18, USA Cycling has recommended races and other gatherings, such as races and group rides be canceled or postponed and is suspending permits on all events through May 3. You can read the full press release in this article https://www.bicycling.com/news/a31469228/cycling-during-coronavirus/Note that the medical community is still learning about this deadly virus on a daily basis. Recently they found the virus can stay suspended in air much longer than originally thought. My advice is not to ride in groups unless from the same household. Do solo rides and virtual rides instead. Even if you don't show symptoms, you can be a carrier and contagious.
My two cents.
From: BBC-Bike@groups.io <BBC-Bike@groups.io> on behalf of Rob Dickson <rdickson33@...>
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 4:19 AM To: David Bergen <davidb@...> Cc: BBC-Bike@groups.io <BBC-Bike@groups.io> Subject: Re: [BBC-Bike] Group rides - input needed Dave,
I have no issue riding with a normal size BBC group providing we be cautionary:
Rob
On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 8:09 AM David Bergen <davidb@...> wrote:
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Re: Group rides - input needed
Carol Curtis
I agree! Thanks Rob!
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On Mar 24, 2020, at 9:19 AM, Rob Dickson <rdickson33@...> wrote:
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Re: Group rides - input needed
Rob Dickson
Dave,
I have no issue riding with a normal size BBC group providing we be cautionary:
Rob
On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 8:09 AM David Bergen <davidb@...> wrote:
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Re: Group rides - input needed
Rob Dickson
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On Tue, Mar 24, 2020, 8:09 AM David Bergen <davidb@...> wrote:
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Re: Group rides - input needed
Carol Curtis
Thanks for that valuable information AND so sorry for your loss.
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Carol
On Mar 24, 2020, at 8:28 AM, Ron Vargo <ronv42@...> wrote:
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