Re: Group rides - input needed

Tom Cramer

I’m very sorry for the loss of your brother Ron, I went thru that years ago it’s not something you get over! My condolences to you and your family.


I agree with Anna, Jason, Davis and Tina.


I have been in my home for a week now trying to do my part, but like you all am dying to go on a nice outdoor ride thru the hills.

I have watched the YouTube link that Ron posted along with another one on the subject which both brought up the good points of not only the sweat or the snot rockets, but if there is a crash that involves us going to the hospital would not be a good thing.

The comment about how the bicyclist haters also brings up a good point, we don’t want to fuel the hate with seeing a big pack of us out there less than 6 feet apart.


I will most likely go on some careful solo rides and will try and setup some more Zwift Group rides until the Stay at Home order is lifted.


Tom Cramer

From: [] On Behalf Of David Holtermann
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 9:45 AM
To: Carol Curtis <SpinAholic@...>
Cc: Rob Dickson <rdickson33@...>;
Subject: Re: [BBC-Bike] Group rides - input needed [EXTERNAL EMAIL - CAUTION]


I don't have anything to share from a medical perspective, but strictly on the basis of social perceptions I urge that any group rides be very small and very low key. We all know that bicyclists are picked on (unfairly) in the best of times - for slowing traffic, for taking up space, for flouting the law. If bicyclists are seen congregating and riding in groups in apparent contradiction of stay-at-home orders, etc, we're only going to reinforce the worst perceptions of us. My two cents.




On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 9:24 AM Carol Curtis via Groups.Io <> wrote:

I agree! Thanks Rob!

On Mar 24, 2020, at 9:19 AM, Rob Dickson <rdickson33@...> wrote:


  • Wheelmen have cancelled all rides until further notice. Ride calendar clear through April
  • Zwift Meetup is a viable option. We had a good group with Tom C this past Sunday

I have no issue riding with a normal size BBC group providing we be cautionary:

  1. No snot rockets
  2. If you need to cough or sneeze, pull out of the paceline.
  3. If you think you may be compromised.....just don't show up



On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 8:09 AM David Bergen <davidb@...> wrote:

I’m looking to start a discussion on group rides.

Cancel completely?

How do you maintain proper social distancing when you are breathing the exhaust of the rider in front of you?  

What is a safe distance?

Groups of 4 riders at a time?

What are the pro’s doing? Other clubs?

Organize time trials with a 1 minute spacing?

Cross winds vs. head or tail winds?

Input needed



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